Same or One Length Single Length Golf Clubs

What’s all the Hype About Same Length Golf Clubs

With the exposure Bryson DeChambeau, (U.S. Amateur Champion) has provided for his same length, one length or single length golf clubs, I felt it necessary to look into the merits of such a golf club configuration to see if it would indeed benefit our students and yes myself as well.

Every golfer wants to improve no matter what type of golf game they play, or they’re not really a golfer in my opinion.  They’re just out for recreation.

I started combing through the internet to see what was out there in hard evidence concerning same length, one length or single length golf clubs.  I found quite a bit more information than I expected.  Of course, all of what I am about to reveal to you is subject to actually trying a set out to experience the proven performance rather than perceived performance.

I new that years ago Tommy Armour tried the concept of single length golf clubs with little success. Here’s a report on the program  By Mike Sorensen, Sports Writer. This report was written in 1989!!!  The report mentions: The Tommy Armour Company first became involved in the one-length design after company president Bob MacNally played a round of golf with PGA Touring pro Bruce Lietzke six years ago. After the round in which MacNally had his problems, Lietzke suggested that he would be all right if could just use a 6-iron all the time. That got MacNally thinking and he asked the company to make him a special set of clubs all the length of a 6-iron.

Makes sense but will you loose distance on your long irons with the shorter length?  Is your wedge going to be longer and too heavy?  More on that in a moment.

single-plane-golf-swingA common argument among all the same length, one length or single length golf clubs suppliers is the ability to learn only one set up position, ball position and swing plane.  Again I’m not sure that argument as merit until I try a set.  One thing I do know for sure and demonstrate to students on occasion, that the loft has a lot more to do with the distance a ball travels than the length of the golf club.  Take out your eight iron and hit it full.  Then get out your four iron and choke up to eight iron length and hit it.  Bet it goes way past your eight iron shot.  Same length different loft.  Of course in this example the head weight of the traditional four iron is much lighter than the eight iron.

To learn the exact difference in distance between same length, one length or single length golf clubs and the traditional configuration you can check out the report written by Dave Tutelman.  Dave did a detailed report with tests on distance, trajectory and more.  If you look at Dave’s report you will see that the distances between the traditional length golf clubs and the single length golf clubs is not that different with the exception of the long irons, like the three and four irons.

OK so you won’t loose much distance if any but will you be more accurate and consistent?  Maybe?  Having taught golf since 1970 it makes sense to me that if golfers could only learn one ball position and set up some variables would be thereby eliminated.

We mentioned loft as the most influential factor in distance.  Well the lofts of the same length, one length or single length golf clubs is practically identical to industry standard if there is one anymore.  Golf club companies are notorious for decreasing loft for added distance to increase sales.  The length is about a six or seven iron length, (depending on which supplier you use) and all the heads weigh about the same as a six or seven.  In a traditional set of golf clubs each golf club is 1/2 inch different in length with a decreasing head weight of seven grams for every 1/2 inch added in length.

Typical Iron Set
Club 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 PW GW SW
Loft 21° 24° 28° 32° 36° 40° 44° 48° 52° 55°
Lie 59° 60° 61° 61.5° 62° 63° 64° 64° 64° 64°
Weight (grams) 239 246 253 260 267 274 281 285 284 296
Single Length  Iron Set
Club 4 5 6 7 8 9 PW GW SW LW
Loft 20° 25° 30° 35° 39° 43° 47° 51° 55° 59°
Lie 62.5° 62.5° 62.5° 62.5° 62.5° 62.5° 62.5° 62.5° 62.5° 62.5°
Weight (grams) 272 272 272 272 272 272 272 272 272 272

I found on interesting quote from a golf club executive.

“Same length has been done, personally I’ve been a fan but it’s a tough concept to sell. Reality; In the US golf industry there are 6 major chains that buy product that is sold to what constitutes 85% of the market. All but roughly 2-3 % of the rest is sold in golf pro shops and they are influenced by the retailers. The buyers for these major chains only buy what is played on tour and pretty much in order of market share. Like it or not we dance to that tune. To introduce something like single length after investing in the design we’d have to spend millions on marketing and not so minor get tour credibility because no product is successful at retail without it.”

-Anonymous Former Major Golf Company CEO

You’re probably asking yourself alright Lopez so what?  Well your friendly Cuban golfing buddy will again sacrifice himself as the Ginnie Pig and build a set of single length golf clubs so I and you can try them out.  It’s the only way we’re going to know if this concept will help us both play better golf.  That means stay tuned as I have already sent out feelers to suppliers and will purchase the best quality heads I can get.

Figure maybe April 25th or so I should have a set put together for you to try.  Keep up with our Golf Blog and Facebook http://www.facebook.com/quickfixgolf

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The Tennis Swing Vs. The Golf Swing

Is the tennis swing anything like the golf swing?

Well I think the back hand tennis swing is very much like the golf swing.  I’m going to prove it to you with the video below of a tennis pro in New York, Chris Porte.  Chris sent us a video of his back hand questioning whether I thought the two swings had any similarity.  Here’s his email:  (Please see the followup email he sent after the analysis below)

Hi Bobby, we emailed back and forth some time ago; I coach tennis in NY City. I just watched your video on letting the arms swing while keeping the shoulders turned-you used Garcia. It reminded me of the my handed backhand where I let the arm swing freely AWAY from me-the body followed. Is that fair to say? Chris

I’ve been hammering away at all my kind and patient student members about how the arms work independent of the body on the down swing. Also on how you MUST be behind the golf ball not on top of it.  (Golfers build their golf swing on top of the golf ball because some idiot told them to keep their head down and not move it.)

If you are right handed it is your left shoulder you want to line up with the golf ball not your head at address and at the moment of impact.  Yes with the shorter golf clubs the ball moves back in the stance which gives the appearance as if the shoulder is past the ball but it’s not!  The shorter golf clubs, (8,9,pw,gw,etc.)  are built with shaft lean forward to accommodate the steeper angle of attack.  The shorter golf clubs have a steeper lie angle or are more upright.  (pictured below)

golf-ball-placement-in-stance

The golf club is swinging from your front shoulder not your head!  Getting your front arm, and club shaft all in straight line at impact, is the challenge.  Take a look at the picture at impact.

 

golf-impact-position

 

In order to accomplish any of these positions above you MUST get comfortable with having your head positioned well behind the golf ball at address or allow it to glide with the swing motion back and forth but NOT up and down!  Take your pick.  Either method will work.

 

Here’s the video I sent to Chris.

Here’s Chris comments after the video.

Hi Bobby, Thanks for doing the analysis! I’ve forwarded it to golf and tennis buddies and everyone enjoyed it with even some “aha, that makes sense” I’ve looked at virtually all the top instructors’ videos and you really are among the very best, if not THE best.
I’m 57 and playing on a torn meniscus (only very part time coaching and volunteer work) but grew up on lawn tennis at the old US Open Club in Forest Hills-I’m still a member; many open championships won over 4 decades, rankings, credentials, but here’s the thing-started with a weak Continental grip when I was five, which encouraged underspin slice but had good coaching a few years later and developed the stroke you see-it can be done!
Anyway, thanks again, of course show it to your students, and if you are in New York please do call on me-would love to have you as my guest at Forest Hills. ps Bob Dylan performing in our antique stadium in July.
Regards,
Chris

 

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